Why having rules is not the whole argument
Sunzi places punishment within a sequence involving attachment and discipline. Hanfeizi distinguishes possessing standards from the arrangements that produce different outcomes. Both require reading beyond a slogan, though they propose different accounts of effective government.
卒未親附而罰之，則不服The effect of punishment is conditioned by a prior relationship.
tls · CC BY-SA 4.0 · KR3b0003_009.txt, lines 144–165治國者莫不有法，然而有存有亡The common presence of standards does not erase divergent outcomes.
tls · CC BY-SA 4.0 · KR3c0005_055.txt, lines 46–54Make the comparison explicit
Sunzi places punishment within a sequence involving attachment and discipline. Hanfeizi distinguishes possessing standards from the arrangements that produce different outcomes. Both require reading beyond a slogan, though they propose different accounts of effective government.
孫子: The effect of punishment is conditioned by a prior relationship.
韓非子: The common presence of standards does not erase divergent outcomes.
What inadequate summary does each passage help expose?
That punishment or the mere existence of standards alone guarantees the desired result.
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